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I personally think the sump that adds my extra two quarts is very good for me. I drive like a madman and it has been almost two years since I have had this car, my first VW ever. I was always a Detroit monster fanatic and I have broken new motormounts and forged cranks off Big blocks. I fix everything on any of my cars including my VW. I am a very bad menace with cars. Today I have driven my square to 100 miles an hour (FOR TEN MINUTES) around 4:00 clock in the morning when some car decided to tail gate me at all lanes. I left him way back since he was afraid of speed. I shift all of my automatics as if it was a stickshift. I keep first gear in this car in up to 35 to 40 miles an hour when I want to pass someone at the light or sign daily. I have put 55,000 miles in this engine after it was rebuilt a year and half ago. I have not touched the engine at all for almost this amount of time. I Change my oil every 10,000 miles or more, sometimes. I have not adjusted my swivel adjusters since my rebuild. I am not exagerating. My brothers laugh at me everytime I destroy another engine from any of my cars , I must have had 20 cars by now including two Volvos. Never had an accident before. I drive like this on dirt trails too. I buy only used cars because it is cheaper to break those. You guys probably hate me for the TYPE 3 sinning , just think of this as a durability test, I will let you know when I throw a rod or blow the engine up in a firey death. Next thing I am planning to do is add a liquid propane carburator to the inlet of my EFI trottle body manifold so my car will run on gasoline and/or EFI when I want to. This will cost me 300 bucks in Mexico. If my engine goes beyond 100k and still works strong I will itemize in painful details all I have done to my EFI engine case etc ... to see if duplication of this will be called upon from you guys. When I first got the car , Smoke used to come out of the oil filler tube when I checked my oil temp by touching the dipstick. This oil always developed black chunks. The oil always turned black after five days of driving .After this I installed the sump and continued driving wildly. Now , no more smoke came out of my dipstick tube and my oil was cooler to the touch. But my engine was damaged anyway after the drivings , melted heads and no oil pressure, so after running on 3 cylinders for two months, I rebuilt the engine. I did some fine "tuning" to different aspects of my engine. After the rebuild I still installed the sump. Still no smoke out my oil. This is a stock 1600 beleive it or not. Why I am telling you my story ? Well I think the more oil in the engine the better. The oil lasts longer so the engine last longer. It takes longer for the oil to heat up and overheat. It may also take longer for the oil to cool off if it overheated. Old fashion non coolered Autotrnnny's such as mine had larger oil capacities to compensate for the overheating. My dodge truck autotranny has a very flat insipid oil pan compared to my VW's deep 'large' capacity pan . Better cooling protection from bigger pan was placed instead of the more modern radiator cooled tranny oil system. My rambler aslo has a tranny with no cooling provisions but has a bigger oil pan. Conclusion ??? Bigger sump is somehow better. After four months of this I added an oil cooler and electric fan and an oil filter. Placed a speaker magnet in the sump too. Lot of oil I say! to prevent major engine maladys. So far my engine for some reason feels stronger than before and I think the break in has passed long ago. It could be that carbon in the heads have raised the compression as well as the gaps on my forgotten plugs has incresed ,causing bigger spark from my big coil, thus better burn. Temp gauge never goes to the middle no matter what ! Engine Angels ????? I boast about my car so much because it runs better than my Eddie Baur Bronco II and my old Ford Escort ever did. Those two cars recently are in car hell now , both engines blew bad. Remember the more oil the better, take it from an experienced engine destroyer. By the way, this weekend, I will adjust my swivel rocker adjusters for the first time and change my engine oil and autotranny fluid, I need to analyze these and also cut the filter open for autotopsy. Past findings show that I could not find any material in the filter except silicon rubber pieces and nothing to clean off the magnet. This is after the few oil changes I have ever done. I do not wish to mention what I did to possibly cause the oil to be clean, some of you will want to ring my neck. The sump did kill my clearance somewhat on my standard height. I tore my little sump cover on a Baja run to a village in mexico, this is a long strange story in itself, maybe for later if someone asks. Anyhow , I raised my rear with the aid of airshocks from JC Whitney and wella ! No more under engine desruction by boulders ! Worth it if you raise, very bad if you lower it. On torsion bars, I only raised my car with torsion bars notches on the front. On the rear I raised it with airshocks , pumped to 170 pounds air pressure. I will raise my rear with the splines in the comming months. I have seen raised TYPE 3 cars in Mexico, They call them baja'd Squarebacks , I even saw one that was a front runner for the Baja 1000 so they say , it looked very serious with some very wild things done to the engine. One of the members of the TYPE 3 club of San Diego has a Baja'd Square. I wish to keep my car to original height like the old adverts show. It is somewhat stock height but some people would think it is raised because they lower theirs. Thats the way it was in the old days. No sagging look. Yeah you can raise your rear but ask the guys who have done it, for tips on what to do. I KNOW , WAY TOO MUCH WRITING, I WAS JUST BORED. So stand by and find out when my engine is destroyed. Maybe my engine angels will keep it going beautifully. Any betting going on out there ?? Hey Russ, maybe I will finish those cad pictures next week , I have been horribly busy. Oh yeah ! This government guy is working for his money now days ! LEON MARTINEZ 1969 SQUAREBACK EFI/AUTO SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/