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I picked up another walker muffler at carlisle.. the early one with the small outlet... so I tried to shove a late tailpipe in the small hole... of course it wouldnt fit but it was WAY too long even if it did fit! SO... Jim has a muffler with the WRONG outlet welded in... no doubt at the factory... and early case with the late outlet, or vice-versa I cant remember which he had. Keep in mind... there is a reason for the mufflers being in the swaps nowadays, and many of them are defects that werent used for that reason, it may be a crack, hole, or perhaps the wrong outlet. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/