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Sounds like a dead battery, either some connection to the battery is really bad or the battery is defective (I had some new ones last a week) or your charging system does not charge. I would check battery with a voltmeter, if it proves to below 12 V with no lights and way less than that with lights on, then the battery did not get charged (charging system), something discharged it (lights , radio ,or accessory left on.), or the batttery has an internal short and must be replaced. Reguardless of these findings, charge up your battery , turn your car on and check the voltage across the battery. It should be around 13.5 volts minimum to 14 +. If the voltage falls below 12.5 with lights on something is not perfect with the charging system. It would most likely be caused by an intermittant voltage regulator. LEON MARTINEZ 1969 SQUAREBACK EFI/AUTO SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe