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Well lucky me, Phillip didn't start this AM when headed out to the farmer's market. We took the Golf, so this gave me the opportunity for a leisurely trouble shoot this afternoon. The problem was a "loose" connection from battery to VR (at the VR). Peter Parker '66 Square; Phillip Portland, OR ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org