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Doesn't sound good. I guess I'll have to try the quick fix and start saving for a rebuild. I guess it's really just an opportunity for a rebuilt engine! If I were to try the option of the big wood screw type thing, is there a possibility of doing any damage? Jim- full rebuild? can I just drop the engine and take the heads off and put in a helicoil? What exactly are the case-savers? And the case-savers require the full rebuild right? Thanks guys. I'd be much more stressed if I didn't have a great forum like vwtype3.org. Steven Anderson ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe