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My Aug 64 handbook gives 1940 lbs unladen (kerb) weight for the Sedan without driver. I doubt it went up by '66. There's also details on the club website in Type 3 history, which quote 2227 lbs, but that may well be a Fastback figure. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org