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well i tried everything i could think of to no avail , the motor still sounded like it was running on 3 cylinders , so thinking it was #4 i pulled that head first Ouchhhh .. i had a semi round semi squared piston mutter.. it had busted a ring on the #4 piston.. i looked the head over and caint find a scratch on it.. the inside of the motor that i can see is fine.. im planing on replaceing all 4 pistons and cylinders while i have it apart .. anything else i should replace ?? should i worry about the head needing machined ? i found a full set of 88mm machined in pistons and cyinders for 149.99 good price ? they are Cima Forged Graphite Coated 67 Baja Bug 72 Bug 73 Squareback 73 Squareback http://type3.cjb.net PGP : 0xA69E66DB ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe