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According to my "Service Without Guesswork" booklet the weights for a 64 Notch are as follows: Unladen Weight - 2193 lbs Payload - 1014 lbs Max Total Weight - 3206 lbs These numbers are all substantially higher than earlier models. As a matter of interest the specs for pre Aug 62 cars are: Unladen Weight - 1896 lbs Payload - 860 lbs Max Total Weight - 2756 lbs I can't really figure out why the cars would have gotten heavier as the years wore on or why the payload would have increased, maybe someone can throw a little light on this for us... Anyway, according to "The Volkswagen 1600 Guide" by Bill Stone the dry weight of a 66 Fasty is 2028 lbs. I guess after all this we still don't know what your car weighs but it's probably somewhere between 2000 and 2200 lbs. Andre ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe