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when I rebuilt the head in my Sprite...vintage 1968, the valve seats were completely crapped out! I had been running no lead fuel, as had the PO. The head only had 15k on it in its life time! The head needed to be rebuilt with bronze guides added to avoid the same result. Though this is not definitive, I hope it helps. Also, the only VW heads I can recall seeing without the bronze guides were a set of Okrasa dual ports and the 25hp head. Russ, can you shed anymore light on this? -- Brian-- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/8328/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org