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>>the push button dashes don't like 12 volt conversions. Specifically the switch assembly. Not sure if its the dimmer for the dash lites, the windshield wiper part or what but I have heard rumour that their life is short when switched to 12v operation. Anybody with experience here?<< Not that I would recommend a 12V pushbutton conversion, but I used to drive a 63 Type 3 Ghia with pushbuttons that was converted to 12V. No problems in ten years of daily driving. Everything worked. I no longer have the car so I can't tell you which relays and how they were wired, sorry David B. FYI: 12V pushbutton units were available (12V electrics were an option on the early cars, M630). One of the Type 34 Registry guys actually found one NOS. My 65 Square still has its original wiring and the ground wiring you describe is correct. The signal wires run up to the headlight bucket in a rubber tube. The headlight and signal wires (inside wiring harness jacket) then run from the headlight bucket over to the trunk. The brown ground wire emerges inside the trunk and grounds to sheet metal (front of luggage area) with a screw. Scott 62 343, 65 361 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe