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The spark would look so lame you cannot see it. So if you can easily see it then it would be bright blue and not orange, some white color is OK. If you have a good spark some efi checking must be done. Do you hear the EFI pump go on, when you initially turn key ? Check all connectors on engine and make sure the connectors are pressed in. I had a bad problem when I changed the points to Electronic and I did not notice for hours that my distributor connector EFI plug was slightly ajar. Leon Martinez Keep me posted, -----Original Message----- From: Matt Small [mailto:msmall@ocvv.org] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:27 AM To: Martinez, Leon Subject: RE: electronic ignition I have a spark, dont know if it is weak or not. But I have it, how would I know if it is weak? -----Original Message----- From: Martinez, Leon [mailto:martinezl@ftscpac.navy.mil] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:21 AM To: 'Matt Small' Subject: RE: electronic ignition Did you check for a spark ? If no spark or very weak spark you would get just dry cranking or putt putt's and backfiring. I have gone through that before. Need to check if power is getting to the hot side (12V) of the ignition module when the key is turned on. Use a multimeter if you have one, if not, a light bulb with a pig tail from some rear car lights you may have around. I wish you lived near by so I can just mozy down after work and check it out because I have been there before I got my car to be very dependable. Keep me posted maybe we can find out what is wrong if you give me more info. LEON MARTINEZ -----Original Message----- From: Matt Small [mailto:msmall@ocvv.org] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:57 AM To: Martinez, Leon Subject: RE: electronic ignition I installed compufire, but my car still wont start...arg. -----Original Message----- From: Martinez, Leon [mailto:martinezl@ftscpac.navy.mil] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:04 AM To: 'msmall@ocvv.org' Subject: electronic ignition Matt did you get tour car fixed ? What kind of electronic ignition did you install ? I installed a Pertronix . The black wire went to the negative side of the coil and the red wire goes to the 12v ignition side of the coil. Leon ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org