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http://www.contiteves-am.com/english/cclub/katalog/int/idx_sub.asp?lang=E&url_content=suche_fzg_1.asp?lang=E This is the Ate online catalogue. It lists T3 hoses and gives lengths. Have a play. Gary Miller Essex UK ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org