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Shorting the terminals on the solenoid with a screwdriver kicks the solenoid and spins the starter. That is why I suspect that it is in the switch somewhere. Maybe adding a relay in the circuit will help. I am also considering a small momentary switch mounted on the tunnel that will perform the "start" function since the "on" position of the key switch seems to be alright. I will also try the contact cleaner idea. It certainly seems like many of the contacts can use a shot of this stuff. Later, John Jaranson '71 FI Auto Fasty (Jane) '66 Square (???) http://hometown.aol.com/jaransonT3 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe