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Well i've got all my eletrical done (finally!) expcept for the horn...so now I need to drop my motor. Now I've never dropped a T3 motor myself (done my T1 numerous times though) and the T3 "looks" easier. Is that an optical illusion? Besides the regular wires, bellow and dipstick extender "thing" what else; if anything do i need to remove to have a painless drop (air filter assem. off too already)? One more quick question I'd like to get some input on...this engine hasn't run in probaly 8years! Besides doing a regular tune up and lube do you think it neccessary to pull the heads and inspect valves springs seats and pistons? Mine as well since i have it out i expect i'll hear. Again many thanks... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/