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Oh yeh golly gee wizz...your welcome! The head temp sensor I bought from Bug Pack at my nearest vw parts store. You can also get one from one of the various free catalogs that are advertized in Hot Vw's and VW trends etc... or you can find several in the internet by going to your search engine and type "vw head temperature gauge" . They are all the same thing made by vdo. The price varies greatly from 48 bucks to over a hundred dollars. mine cost me 71 dollars. I installed it under the dash on a little especially made bracket that is sold separately. It is just over the fuse holder. I mounted the temp sensor on the top front bolt on the # 3 cylinder. I wrote several papers about it last december. If you cannot find it on the type 3 list just ask me to send you it and I will look for it on my hard drive. Got temps also. The original instructions tell you to put it under the spark plug this location sucks but it is all in my "short stories". Can't find just ask. The fuel ratio meter is from autocraft I beleive and you can also find it on the internet. Summet racing catalog sells it. It cost about 70 bucks for sensor and meter, analog or digital , if you have problems finding it I will send you info, just ask. I do not have it installed in this car but did in another. One guy had an adjustment installed on the dash of his bus with efi. Those busses use similar head temp sensor. The adjustment pot is connected in paralell to the head sensor. I can do this adjustment feature in theory to almost 100 % assurance that it will work. I work in electronics and this is very simple to do (the adjustment feature) if you get your meter before mine i can help you talk the fuel adjustment. the only thing the meter does is give you an indication of proper fuel mixture when performing any adjustment and would'nt it be cool dash adjustable? I can help when the time comes. The sensor threaded mount must be installed on a exhaust pipe. I mentioned a washer, right well when you buy a new sensor, it comes with an aluminum alloy washer to get it away from the head, since it is thick and has two more surfaces for heat to travel to it acts as a very weak insulator. Aluminum dissipates heat better than heat because of its conductive properties and density. Different metal such as steel or copper have different heat transfer properties sice they are more denser. Using these will make the sensor not as hot and tell the "brain" that the head is colder than it really is but is still hot so more fuel is sent to the injectors. When the engine is cold the air temp sensor disconnected does seem to make a cold engine to get over rich, stumble and rpm to go down. Try it hot when in idle and the engine is running slower tha it should. This used to happen to me all the time. why don't you adjust the pressure sensor when the engine is acting up, then see how it works when cold. Are you sure your pressure sensor is good and adjustable. I thought I had one once but found that it was never satisfactory it caused your symptoms and more . It was the older type that is smaller with adjustment provisions sticking out and no flat diaphram plate inside. Replaced it and the engine changed its ways. This is after fixing the many problems my EFI had. I have written really long mails about how I fixed those problems on previous e-mails. Just ask and I will send you them if you cannot find them. You cannot screw up the sensor by adjustment as long as the lock washer is loose, that is if you have the old type. I have a feeling you are trying to adjust bad injectors out. I did this before and found all four injectors were flakey. I replaced them. To test these it is easier if your car has that accelerator efi pump feature, like a carburator. I also wrote about the testing of these. Just ask if you cannot find the e-mails. Things to have : good working injectors, good working pressure sensor and good temp sensors. Once you get all this fixed, it will be as smooth as glass. Don't forgrt about the distributor health not only the adjustment, I also wrote about my problem and the fix. This latter one affected my performance greatly. If you can't find it I wil send it to you. Check your injectors before all else. They caused many problems for many people. I hope I am helping you. If you have a specific question I will look it up for you and give you a definitive answer. LEON MARTINEZ martinezl@ftscpac.navy.mil 1969 SQUAREBACK EFI/AUTO SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA -----Original Message----- From: Chris Picknally [mailto:bluesky@sedona.net] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:32 PM To: martinezl@ftscpac.navy.mil Subject: Thanks So Much! You sent a very informative and well written e-mail about my "Bogged Down" Squareback. When I say loaded run I mean on the Hwy, up hills, high speed, 3 adults in the car, in Arizona. Where do I get a head temp gage for the Type3 and where does it mount? I have no problem at idle when under normal driving conditions, just a very low idle after my "loaded Run" condition. I did as you suggested and disconnected the air temp sensor at idle and the RPM dropped a bit. I did this on a Cold-Cool engine, outdoor temp about 60. Should I try this test on a Normal temp engine to Hot? Tell me more about the washer - metal? does this washer go on just like any other, would it not still conduct the heat? Sounds interesting. Tell me about the fuel ratio meter and fuel ratio adjustment on your dash. Some History on my system - I had a hesitation problem with the car before and after my engine rebuild. When I would accelerate cool or Hot (more when hot) from a standing start it would hesitate, and even stall. I went through all kinds of things from valve adj., timing, voltage regulator. . . the works. The only thing I could do was to make the overall mixture richer by tweeking the pressure sensor. That solved the problem. Could I be in need of further adjustment? I did not want to push my luck and screw up the sensor by over doing it. I did not nor do I have an oxygen sensor to place in the tailpipe to really do it right. (how much and where can I get such a sensor/gauge?) So what do you think, and what would you recommend I do next? Thanks So Much, Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe