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To answer some questions: 1. pop-outs to stationary windows-- fairly easy, cal-look seals work well-keep the water OUT. 2.What VW did was add some stiffeners along the sides on the Square, behind the fenders under the windows.Note: Notch and Fasty do not have these stiffeners, also the Notch (my 65 anyway) didn't have any foam in the C pillars. The above is personal experince. Bob 65 Notch S w/ sunroof ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe