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Just looked it up - "Widdershins &c. Variants of withershins, (Scottish); Old English wither = against, Low German sind = journey. Literally against the journey (of the sun) = counter clockwise or anti-clockwise". So you see, the Variants make it Type 3 related. ;-) Oddly enough, if clocks had developed in the southern hemisphere, clockwise would have been the other way! Dave (full of useless info, and some useful). UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe