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I have the antenna mounted in the crappy GRP left front fender on my car, and as you naturally can understand, there is no ground in the fender and thus no ground going into the base of the antenna, only in the wire shield, going through the radio. The antenna is a cheap $7 unit from the FLAPS. Still, I have no noise whatsoever when listening to either radio or CD. Could that be because I have a modern head unit, not the 30y.o. stock Blaupunkt unit? PerL 73 Variant L ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org