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I am not sure if this relates or not but! Chev V8's have a harmonic balancer on the crankshaft end and it has a rubber between the outer ring and center section . These will not stand up to high performance use. They have some solid aftermarket ones and one is called "fluid dampners" that have a liquid in them? Any one up to designing a new Hipo Type 3 fan 8^} Richard -----Original Message----- From: neil verdon [mailto:Neil.Verdon@t-online.de] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 4:37 PM To: type 3 list Subject: [T3] re fan for a 72 square the fan will also be reducing torsional vibration within the crankshaft as it rotates ! due to the rubber fitted to remove it personally is probably not to good an idea however if the fan is fully balanced and the engine to well mayby its ok. neil verdon 66 sqr on irs pan best among equals rise to the top. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org