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<< I would go with Jim, this thing sounds broken to me. Has it been lowered recently?? Shortly after lowering a friends square, the right rear torsion snapped like a twig a week later, and its somewhat of a pain to get back right the frist time off, or it was for us anyways. >> I just gotta ask.... How did you get the inner torsion bar out after it snapped in half on you guys?!? this seems like a question i might need to know in the future. kAz in teXas ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org