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okay so I called up Karl's custom and all but a guy named paul was there (should it matter to much?) but they gave me three choices in engines, one from Gex,I heard you guys saying something about them a while back I think, one from Karl's custom, and a Direct engine from VW themselves all brand new and the such, but what do you guys think? Gex: someone give me any pro's and con's on these guys Karl's Custom: I suppose Toby and the Az crowd would know about them and VW themselves: I'm leaning towards these guys but right now my $$$ flow keeps poking me to gex but heh I wanna get it done thnx Corey 68 squareback Scottsdale, Arizona _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe