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hmmmmmm, maybe the starter relay fix is needed. Can you get under the car and try to jump between the battery cable and solenoid wire and see if it cranks? You will probably need to get the car up on a ramp to get under it, ;-) , well, the car is lowered just a bit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Type3Guy" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org