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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Sounds like you're using the timing light correctly. It gets its 12V from the same terminal that the ignition wire is hooked on. But the tach/dwell meter hooks to the other terminal- the one with the green wire to the condensor. > I changed the fuel pump relay just for giggles made no > difference....next I > will attempt to adjust the idle....I guess then its on to > trying to test > each FI component and buying diagnostic tools etc....comments The only diagnostic tools are timing light, tach/dwell meter, pressure gage, and volt-ohm meter. -Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>