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Everett My vin # is 315219970. I hope this helps everyone out. I also have a friend with another 65 fastback. it is a bright green color on the 65 pan. It is different than my 65 is too. Erik de Jong 62 ghia 65 &66 fasts 00 newbeetle ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/