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Hey Jim, I had to tear out my original sound deadening material because i had a water leak and water had settled under the sound deadening material behind the front seats. There was all kinds of rust under it from the trapped water. I tried as hard as i could to remove the stuff without breaking it up but it was glued to the floor with i think tar. I had no choice but to destroy it. jesse 71 fi squareback I'm sure this IS good stuff, but I'm curious why anyone would tear out the OE stuff just so they could spend extra time and money on replacing it with something new. Just curious..?? - Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/