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With all this talk of Fi i think I'm going to try to get my car Fi ssyetm to work again. I have most of a good working system from a 69 auto sqaure. I have a few wrong parts though. My air distributor is off of a later style (4-5 prong throttle valve switch) and i might have the wrong distributor. how different is the Mt and the At distributors? (ignition) Can i use eiither one? Also i need to get a new harness ()hopefully i can get one from the salvage yard.) Eric 1968 VW Blue Fastback http://www.edinboro.edu/~e153916n/darkside_resto.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jim Adney [mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:05 PM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] Carbs vs FI On 9 Apr 2001, at 19:57, Keith Park wrote: > Jimm.... My ears are ringing!! Both the stock FI and dual carb setups > are Stock 65HP... how can the carbs give better performance?? if you > put bigger carbs on it will just run too rich, carbon things up and > dilute the oil... youd have to do other things to harness all that > extra fuel your introducing. Right? The point I was trying to make was that I think it is POSSIBLE to get more power with carbs. I think we have to keep in mind that VW had a lot of things on their mind when they designed these systems, not just performance, but also fuel economy, emissions, safety, durability.... If you are willing to sacrifice the others in order to gain performance I think it is clear that this is POSSIBLE. OTOH, I agree with everything that you have posted which has been to claim that this outcome, while possible, is UNLIKELY. Most people fail at the attempt and the car ends up in the salvage yard within 2 years. Not all, just most. The problem is that most owners expect carbs to be a quick, simple solution to a problem and they usually turn out to be a more complicated solution than the original problem. On top of this, FI problems tend to have rather cheap solutions once you find them. Much cheaper than switching to carbs. I am a strong advocate of the FI. I believe it will give you the best tradeoff between all-weather drivability, performance, durability, and emissions. It can be a real BEAR for the beginner to troubleshoot, but there has never been a better resource for the beginner than this list. - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/