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Re: [T3] Car Still Won't Start.


On 5 Apr 2001, at 20:59, Mark Healey wrote:

> I went to the local junkyards for the relays that control the fuel
> pump.  I could only find one.  So I first swapped it with the one
> under the back seat and the problem persisted.  I then replaced the
> original and tried the one under the dash and the problem still
> persisted.

The under-dash relay will only click if the back seat relay is okay, 
so we know the back seat relay is good.

> To restate the problem
> It won't start but it turns over fine.
> 
> I have the initial running of the fuel pump when I turn it on.

This tells you that the under-dash relay is good.

> I have the two relay clicks when I turn it on.

This tells you that the FI system has power and ground and that 
the control unit is alive at least to some extent.

> I have spark on all cylindars (checked with a timing light).

Timed right?

> I have the injector clicking when I turn in on and manual move the
> trottle.

This verifies that at least a little more of the brain is working.

> Which part # control units can I use in a 71 manual?

The correct one would be a D. You could try a C as a test, but I 
wouldn't leave it in there.

> Any other ideas?

In general, check carefully for any broken wires. Especially FI wires 
in the engine compartment, especially around where you might 
have been working. BTW, what WERE you doing just before things 
failed?  

Get an analog voltmeter and someone to turn the key for you. 
Carefully pull out the FI plug on the side of the dist. Connect the 
VOM between the center pin on the dist and either side pin.  

Have your helper crank the engine while you watch the VOM. The 
needle should move between 0 and infinity as the engine turns.  

Stop the engine and check center pin to the other side pin. Do the 
same test on that side.  

If the dist fails either test, pull it out and remove and clean the 
trigger points. DO NOT FILE them. Just clean them off and drag a 
clean piece of paper between the points. Verify that you can get 
the VOM reading to go from 0 to infinity by manually opening the 
points.  

Assemble the dist. Verify again while turning the dist by hand.  

Install, retime, start!  

-
Jim Adney
jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711-3054
USA

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