Heck! I was pissed when the 10 year old ones on my square had to go last year, BUY QUALITY maybe we cant get the original german ones (like my Opels 25 year old ones I wont TOUCH) but Wagner or EIS or some other major brand should get 10 years. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe