echhhmmmmmm, Keith...have you been there on the 1775cc engine? i have had one and it ran quite cool. -- Brian- konzept 396s My Cars-- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/8328/index.html DDSG Page-- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/8328/darkside.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org