The Road & Track test that I have a copy of list the curb weight (fuel, but no people) of the 69 Square with automatic trans at 2250 lbs. Later, John Jaranson '71 FI Auto Fasty http://hometown.aol.com/jaransonT3 ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org