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Original condition means the chrome is all scratched up but not rusty and the $65 NOS mufflers are generally the Brazilian ones which SHOULD come with a Mallet. nGerman ones are usually around the $100-$125 area. New from VW they were $130 and Aftermarket suppliers are all over $200 Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/