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I've been so unfortunate to get loose nuts on all four wheels - twice! Once in my 73 Variant, the other time when I was giving a 64 Bug its maiden voyage after finishing a $20k restoration. (The bug's owner "celebrated" with something nice to drink, and couldn't drive afterwards). It was the same thing that caused both incidents, freshly painted wheels. The thick layer of paint under the lug bolt worked its way off, so there were suddenly a gap between the bolt and the wheel. Not fun at all, although no accidents occurred. So, the moral of the story? When you're wheels gets new paint, remove the paint in the lug mounting surface! PerL 73 Variant L ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/