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Do you really think a 901 trans is a bad idea? I was thiking it would be nice- solid 911 Porsche technology, 5th gear, add afactory short-shift kit and it good to go.... No? Stieg > -----Original Message----- > From: My65notch@aol.com [SMTP:My65notch@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 8:09 AM > To: type3@vwtype3.org > Subject: [T3] type4 motor into type3, my journey - ( LOOOONG !! ) > but informative.. I hope... > > Well all, > > I've received several emails privately off list asking me about my Type4 > motor conversion into my 'Notch. Letters go from -"hey dude.. you car is > kewl > - tell me everything you did to get this engine into your car !! I want to > go > kick some butts out on the boulevard" to "I am very interested and would > like > whatever feedback you've got" > > So, for everyone involved... here we go....... > > ( some of this letter is quoted verbatim to a letter I sent to > flat4robb@aol.com... the names have been changed to protect the > innocent..;) > > << motor and trans real cheap is this a viable option for a 70' square ? > >> > > > is this a viable option ?........hmmmmm....... I get this question posed > to > me quite often. I guess a lot of it depends on your resources. Yes, the > motor > ( physically - the block ) will bolt right up. Is the motor out of a 914 > or a > bus ? did you get any tin ? There will need to be some small modifications > to > the tin either way. You're going to learn all about the wiring schematic > on > your square ( as the t4's use an alternator ) I spent the majority of last > > weekend pulling new wires and kind of building a new wiring loom from the > alt > to the regulator. Ummm... let's see..... ah, intake manifolds... I had a > set > built for me by a company in California so that the carbs would still fit > under the decklid - not cheap - and - it was only the second set of these > manifolds that they had made - the other set was for a HotVW's article > back > in '89 - your only other option is to use type4 manifolds and leave the > decklid off as they stick up too far ( or maybe try to retrofit the FI - > if > your square is FI then this is a VERY viable alternative ! ). Exhaust..... > > nothing.. and I mean NOTHING is made to fit ! nobody sells type4 ( 411/412 > ) > performance exhaust's and the bus exhausts fit but you have to shorten the > > Jpipes - or heater boxes if you really -REALLY want heat - but then you'll > > have to find a way to make them work - my notch is a "summer only" car so > I > didn't worry about heater boxes - and yes - I used a bus exhaust. Flywheel > > and clutch are stock bus parts - 215mm - but you have to have the flywheel > > modified ( have a bearing pressed into the center of the flywheel - to > support the input shaft from the gearbox ), throwout bearing is different > but > fits. > You'll need to fabricate engine hanger brackets. > Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to talk you out of this !! it's just > not > a weekend - bolt-in sort of thing - nor - not for the faint of heart. No > cutting of stock sheet metal is required. > If you need any assistance feel free to get ahold of me - I'll be glad to > help - just realize what you're getting into. I took this entire winter to > do > my project - it also helps to have an extra case w/ P's & C's and heads on > it > ( empty - no crank etc. ) to bolt in the car to do "fittings" with. That's > > where I am right now - I have about 8 or 9 type4 motors sitting around in > storage and I just pulled an empty case - slapped some empty cylinders on > it > w/ some junk heads and bolted it in to fit the exhaust and engine hanger > brackets. I just took my case that I'm going to build for the car - to the > > polisher yesterday - I'm going to have him polish the top of the case - > only > the part you can see with the decklid up. > > > << just came into a 2.0 914 motor and trans real cheap >> > > the gearbox is good for nothing to us - you may be able to sell it to a > bus > guy or a dunebuggy guy - but it's of no use to a type3. A better option is > to > go through and strengthen your stock gearbox as the ratios are very > favorable > for this kind of swap. I put in heavy duty 1st & 2nd ( all stock gearing ) > > welded 3rd & 4th and put in extra spider gears and a beef-a-diff. > Also the cases are durn near indestructible - I usually degrease them and > then have the outside of the case blasted with steel shot. > I'm just waiting for the case to came back from the polisher and I still > need > to finish welding my Jpipes - they need to be shortened an inch to get the > > bus exhaust to tuck in behind the apron. > > > I think that this pretty much outlines what's involved. If anyone has any > further questions - either post to the list or email me. > > Dan > > > 65 Notch ( with Type4 POWER ) > 65 Bug > my65notch@aol.com > http://users.aol.com/my65notch/index.htm > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/