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Herman, I could be missing something here. However, in reaction to your post (following), I hied me to the woods to interview the left side of the nearest T3 engine, a '72, I believe. (ALl mine were in that class, '70 - '73.) I could see the three 10mm bolts that hold the oil cooler onto the top of the engine, and I do remember that the shroud has to come off first. John Muir's book says this can indeed be done "engine in," and that is what I recall. But he also says not so the T4, which has a more complex setup, one which I have not seen. Further, I have no experience with the '69 and earlier T3, but those are simpler in most respects. Finally, and perhaps this is what you misunderstood in my original note, "Cheer up, it could be the pushrod tube seals." meant: "Be happy, if it is the oil cooler seals, and you have only to pull the shroud and pull the oil cooler. If it is the pushrod tube seals, then you face the cheerless task of removing the head to get at the offending pushrod tube and its seals!" Sorry, if that short expression of my sense of humor left you and anyone else uncertain of my meaning. Gene >>--------------Previous Message----------------- >Theres not much reason for cheer , taking of the head to change the seals is >no easy job. >Or might you have been kidding ? > >Herman >KG T34 '69 >Israel - Is real >-----Original Message----- >From: tamara saarinen <tsaari61@maine.edu> >To: Andrew Payne <veedub@odometer.org> >Cc: type3@vwtype3.org <type3@vwtype3.org> >Date: 12 1999 01:50 >Subject: [T3] oil cooler question > > >> >>Cheer up, it could be the pushrod tube seals! >> >>Gene >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org