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On 10 May 99, at 8:50, D & L Walters wrote: > Jim, I hope you weren't put out by my reply, Not at all ;-) > it's just that I'm saying > that there are limitations to the VW brake systems on any air-cooled > models. I don't think Herr Porsche had 100+ speeds in mind when the > brakes were designed on our cars. There have been times when I've stood > hard on the brakes in a controlled stop and had them slowly fade away to > almost nothing. There isn't a whole lot to do to a Type III brake to > upgrade them anyway, short of stainless brake lines, better shoes and > pads, or vented discs. Of these, the only one that will have much effect on a single stop is the pad. The pad material can make a BIG difference. As for VW brakes, did you realize that Consumer Reports tested the 67 Beetle (in 67) and found that its brakes (4 wheel drums) were the best they had ever tested! That car held their record for shortest stop for literally years. And yet I don't think there is any question that the type 3 disk brakes are better. The vented rotors can make a difference for a series of repeated stops, and the lines will make a theoretical difference in the amount of pedal travel (but not pedal force required or braking force experienced.) This difference is small enough that I don't think anyone in a double-blind test could tell which cars had which hoses. Jim - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, y ۡ *************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe