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Dave Hall wrote: > <snip> I doubt VW > made them anyway, If you remember them, you might have seen the Europa bumpers on a non-VW. Yes, the Ford Fiestas of 1976-78 used the Europa bumpers too (at least in Europe). These were very short (seen from above) opposed to VWs bumpers. Wonder if the width of these are anything like the Type 3? Sort of custom, still being original. PerL 73 Square ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org