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I have been a fan of the 4 into 1 basic extractor exhausts for years now. I really cant stand the way the quiet packs look or sound though. Not only that, the single QP that was on my car before I took it off the pan rubbed the inside of the rear apron real bad. I was considering a (real, name brand) Pacesetter Monza exhaust instead. I have never owned one of these and was wondering if I would experience any noticeable power loss over the extractor exhausts. I am considering this simply for aural and aesthetic reasons. FYI, my engine is a stocker 1600, dual port, mild cam, dual solexed with a .009 and Pertronix Igniter. Any input would be greatly appreciated. TYIA Gerald '67 Pile of Fastback parts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/