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Thanks, everyone for the tips. My exhaust is a single quiet pack that is about 5 years old. While i am looking at things, i am going to put a new one on. Does anyone reccommend a different style exhaust that is not so noticeable as a single quiet pack, or that doesn't hit the rear apron like most aftermarket exhausts. When i bought the car it had the 4 tip exhaust, and i hated the look of that. Does the tuck-away style (that fits up next to the vavle cover) work that is sold for a bug? Also, can the exhaust leak cause a little pinging? I can hear the coke bottles noise when i am idling and i use the highest octane available (91). Dan Hoopes dan@ewed.net '67 Square, "Stanley" Provo, Utah ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe