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JohnK=> the front (and to a lesser degree, rear) heat exchangers are => rusted all to hell as well. ... Do the heat exchangers HAVE to => be for a T3? I'm afraid so. How far gone are your old ones? If they don't leak exhaust internally, it's best to try and save them. You can get a patch kit to renew the muffler ends of the front exchangers, and you can usually weld up the air shells without hurting anything. The rear exchangers are much more difficult to locate, since more have been tossed out with rusty muć“„Ndso definitely save them if at all possible. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 Grosse Karmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe