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In a message dated 7/6/99 8:58:03 PM Central Daylight Time, jadney@vwtype3.org writes: << om: jadney@vwtype3.org (Jim Adney) Reply-to: jadney@vwtype3.org To: type3@vwtype3.org On 6 Jul 99, at 14:38, Tony Fulbright wrote: > On the subject of key blanks, are there any manuals, articles, books of any > kind that list what the different blank numbers fit? I have a few blanks but > without this info I don't know what year model or type they fit. Can anyone > help? Just a quick primer: Each VW lock and key has a key code. The key codes have the form NN L NNN where the Ns are numerals and the L is a letter. The letter is the designator for the particular blank that that series of locks takes. For example, my old 68 had the key code 48 K 020. This meant that it used a "K" blank. Later VWs used an "M" blank. K and M are VW's designations for the blanks, but if you go to a locksmith they will use a different designation that attempts to cover ALL the world's locks. The original keys had the key code stamped on them and the locks themselves also have the code stamped on them. If you want to have a key made to the correct profile, the best way is to remove the passenger door handle and get the code from that lock. I suggest the passenger door because the driver's door has occasionally been replaced and will have a different code on it, even if the old cylinder has been used to keep the keying the same. To be really sure you can take both door handles off or even the ignition lock, too. The rear hatch lock on the squareback also has the code stamped on it. A real locksmith can take your key code and look up the profile that your key should be cut to. They can then make a good key without an original. This is sometimes useful if the key you have been given is a copy of a copy of a copy of a cûFµ˜ If you are lucky enough to actually have one of your baby's original keys (each car came with 2), I suggest that you put it aside and use a copy for daily use, but always have duplicates made from the original Jim - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ****************************** And I recently took the drivers door handle off my 1973 Thing because I had lost the key. They made me two copies of the key that fit the ignition for $11.00 at Central Volkswagen. On that old a model, they had to use a file and something else, because there was no computer code. It worked out great for me. Don Garies dgaries808@aol.com - Return-Path: <type3-request@vwtype3.org> Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v59.55) with SMTP; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 21:58:03 -0400 Received: from maria.yourwebhost.com (maria.yourwebhost.com [209.239.45.2]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (vx) with SMTP; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 21:57:46 -0400 Received: (from gregm@localhost) by maria.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19789; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:57:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:57:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: maria.yourwebhost.com: gregm set sender to type3-request@vwtype3.org using -f Message-Id: <199907070156.UAA36580@mail1.doit.wisc.edu> From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> To: type3@vwtype3.org Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:56:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [T3] {RE} Key Blanks Reply-to: jadney@vwtype3.org Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990706143820.94218.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Resent-Message-ID: <"QWwK4.0.7m4.rFhWt"@maria.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: type3@vwtype3.org X-Mailing-List: <type3@vwtype3.org> archive/latest/13835 X-Loop: type3@vwtype3.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: type3-request@vwtype3.org On 6 Jul 99, at 14:38, Tony Fulbright wrote: > On the subject of ke× qW, are there any manuals, articles, books of any > kind that list what the different blank numbers fit? I have a few blanks but > without this info I don't know what year model or type they fit. Can anyone > help? Just a quick primer: Each VW lock and key has a key code. The key codes have the form NN L NNN where the Ns are numerals and the L is a letter. The letter is the designator for the particular blank that that series of locks takes. For example, my old 68 had the key code 48 K 020. This meant that it used a "K" blank. Later VWs used an "M" blank. K and M are VW's designations for the blanks, but if you go to a locksmith they will use a different designation that attempts to cover ALL the world's locks. The original keys had the key code stamped on them and the locks themselves also have the code stamped on them. If you want to have a key made to the correct profile, the best way is to remove the passenger door handle and get the code from that lock. I suggest the passenger door because the driver's door has occasionally been replaced and will have a different code on it, even if the old cylinder has been used to keep the keying the same. To be really sure you can take both door handles off or even the ignition lock, too. The rear hatch lock on the squareback also has the code stamped on it. A real locksmith can take your key code and look up the profile that your key should be cut to. They can then make a good key without an original. This is sometimes useful if the key you have been given is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.... If you are lucky enough to actually have one of your baby's original keys (each car came with 2), I suggest that you put it aside and use a copy for daily use, but always have duplicates made from the original Jim - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/lis8ŽRslto:help@vwtype3.org