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I have been a NONA member for two years and I think Lee has done a wonderful job. Any club is only as good as its members. Unfortunatly, NONA has a bunch of members that want to set back, pay their 10 dollars a year (boy Lee is really taking us to t:+Ð on that one ) and reap the benefits without contributing anything to the club. If there were no benefits then why join? I for one have found parts, made friends, gotten help from some of the regional reps over the phone on problems. (email sometimes just dosen't cut it). I also think that Lee has made it perfectly clear in the last 3 newsletters that if he didn't get any articles then the newsletter would not be published until he got enough material to do so. IF, NONA dies and you are a member then BLAME yourself not LEE. I have also been a member of this list for a couple of years. I see the two as totally seperate things. There has been a lot of people who have helped me out of some real jams on problems and finding parts here also. I have a friend (I know some of you guys may find that hard to believe) who belongs to a Chevy club and a Camaro club, what's so bad about that. I happen to love Notches and only care about FB and SB for the parts to keep my Notch alive ;) Some of the advice I have gotten here I have passed on to NONA members and vice versa. I really don't see this list as competition for NONA. Long live NONA & Type3.org Dana (Soapbox is Creeking) Hall ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe