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Knuckels away from the window crank?? I fixed that easily by converting to Power Windows!! OOOH Toby doesn't have power windows??? saaaaay! Keith 71 BRIGHT red square with just a few VERY dark spots! > can i put 4" speakers in the panels > without the panels sagging? > > -Yes. A good place to mount it is below the window crank...just keep your > knuckles away from the speaker grill when operating the crank! ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/