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I have a really neat program called 'Dyno 28' which simulates dynamometer testing of engines based on a big list of variables. I ran a simulated stock 1600 and it read 62 horsepower@4000 seems pretty close. I ran my engine (90.5x69, Webers, etc.) and it showed 99hp@5000 which is more than I thought. If anyone wants to know what the simulation is for their engine drop me a line Jim Flowers 69 Panel clone ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org