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PhilN=> later type 3's caiئهكdiscs upfront and larger rear drums, => yes? (Which year were they introduced?) They came with the switch to the four-lug arrangement in '66. Not sure that the four-lug drums are any larger. => Will they fit the earlier type 3's ('64 Notch) and is it an easy mod? I haven't done this, so take this as tentative until confirmed by direct experience. Checking the manuals, it looks to me like the front-end upgrade is just a matter of changing out everything from the ball joints outward, and in the rear from the axle tube outward. You'll probably also want to switch to a dual master cylinder, which VW figured out in '67. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 343 ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org