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The club criteria and examples of rides that meet that criteria can be found at this link! I have some negative responses to this idea and to those people I say I am sorry if you think it is a bad idea, but I am pushing on...One more thing, I forgot to mention that the T34 is also a possible candidate for this club as as the SP-2 since they are based on the T3 power plant. Brian "Vader" Fye Hey! You tried to hide my light saber? http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/8328/darkside.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/