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Just my luck! Ok I just got the square running and back together after almost a year of restoration work inside and out. I have had some trouble with getting it timed correctly. I used a long wood stick from a fine paint handle to find the true top dead center on the #1 cylinder . . . what do you think happened? (This is the dumb ass part) It broke off! Yes that's right, as the piston was coming up to the top it broke off about 3 inches (guess) of the "FXXXing stick"! The portion of the stick in the cylinder is about 1/8" tapering to 1/16" it is very brittle as I found out. Due to the angle it wedged itself and broke I guess. What do I do now? Do I run it in hopes of it breaking up and getting expelled out the exhaust? How long would it take to pull the head, do I have to remove the engine from the car? Obviously I have not pulled the head on a VW before. I'm so pissed off right now, and very shot down. TOP DEAD CENTER Question While I'm here: So with my wonderful stick I find that the piston reaches the peak on the compression stroke just about when it hits the very 1st mark on the pulley ( 4 marks one large with 3 more to the right of the largest.) This is the mark furthest to the passenger side. I realize that the piston stays at the peak while the crank follows through the stroke. The piston starts to go down as soon as the largest mark centers on the case mark. My question is at what point is TDC, when the piston first meets the peak or just before it comes down. My car runs best and most smooth just before that 1st of 4 (total) marks, about 10ΕΊ BTDC. At top dead center my car backfires, spits and bogs down. Is that timing acceptable or will I burn up! The big question is where is my TDC according to "The Dumb Ass Test" Chris Picknally, Cottonwood ARIZONA 1970 Auto Square ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/