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I took the seats off today with ease. just wanted to thank everybody who told me how to get them off. no i just have to sweep out all the cacti and junk. yish. -brian. squareback@angelfire.com www.angelfire.com/biz3/squareback Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/