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Ooopps, am still checking my email after a 5-day holiday, and I see that I missed another correct answer: Mike also grabbed the brass ring: >.the one part that is common thru the whole beetle production is the "engine seal" and I believe it isjust one part of the seal...maybe the front portion. Phil dillard@suu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org