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Dana- The window scrapers are not seals. They will keep out most of the water, but some will always get through, even on new cars. That is why it is important to keep the drain holes in the bottom of the doors clear and keep the plastic moisture barrier on the door under the trim panel. John Jaranson 71 FI Auto Fasty ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe