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Sorry for posting this to you personally, I didn't mean it, I swear! Whoa, hold on there, Robert! You just said yourself, that the fuel outlet on the pump is dry, and you can't hear the ticking when you turn the key on. And you're going to junk the FI? I don't care *what* carburetors you put on there, if they aren't getting any more gas than your FI is getting now, they won't run any better either. Take your time, calm down, and do the basic troubleshooting route. I assure you, every electric fuel pump ever made goes 'buzzzzzzz' for about 2-4 seconds after turning your ignition key to the 'on' position. This is designed to get the 22-30 psi of fuel pressure to the injectors. A trained (paranoid?) person can feel the floor pan/fire wall buzzing slightly (through your feet); but it's easy to hear just by standing outside the car by the front, when somebody inside the car turns the key. Until you get that taken care of, you are getting no fuel; so you will get no go, whether it's from carbs, FI, or Hogan's Goat trying to deliver gas. James "Chewie, help me over here," MacNaughton TIII Neophyte May the Force be with you.... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Braun [SMTP:vwsquare@yahoo.com] <mailto:[SMTP:vwsquare@yahoo.com]> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 11:32 AM To: type3@vwtype3.org <mailto:type3@vwtype3.org> Subject: Re: [T3] The Virgin or here we go again... > Funny, if the car was a 1995 Jetta (or insert car here) this statement > would never come up. So why should it come up on a type 3? > > Scott (In other words, fix it...) ... the Dark Side is calling me.... (Carbs) not only cause I don't wann deal with FI... but I want to get a little more HP out of it... I know that just carbs won't do that... I plan on other things as well.... but ohhh how I do love stock better.... HELP!!! in response to the Jetta statement above.. I think with some guys ( I may be guilty of this also ) would rather deal with something more tangible... like the mechanics of carbs rather than electonics and programs with FI... but if I knew FI better... I probably would be convinced that it is better.... hmmm... Robert '73 broken back _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com <http://mail.yahoo.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org <mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org> , Subject: unsubscribe